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Discussion Rise of the Phoenix Cult
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Lovec Krys
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No, I'm just telling you, that you could do it in the past (not so distant past).
And you might have some additional ones still in inventory.
Unfortunately this doesn't work for future anymore. Now Libraries (=more than 1 set) are just becoming remnants of the past (like the old sets from times where sets were still worth their space).
little bee
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And that perfectly sums up the problem. We want them to stay in storage so that the markets can recover.
CrazyWizard
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read "a better source" because if it ain't "better" nobody will replace it.
iDavis
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@Questar as mentioned, these are the new buildings for this event. Daily prizes, also containing buildings from the previous events, are being tracked on the All Events subpage.
Jammin
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I have always insisted that the entire Evolution buildings provide the players with resources that are rare, but the structure is almost always the same (coins and supplies and then some scrap and knowledge points) Mainly because of the knowledge points, the Evos are provided, possibly because they're pretty ... really useful? hardly likely.
In addition, the Evos are limited if you don't want to pay, so they could be made stronger.
From my point of view it will be impossible to get the players to delete the library set, because Inno would have to give something that is even worse than the set ... bad in this case means even more OP. The only downside to the set is that it is very large and takes up a lot of space if you have it multiple times, but it's worth the space even if it's not updated with RR.
I have no idea how Inno would like to solve that, I don't care, I will never delete my 9 sets and I would put 6 more if I had space because they are in my inventory.
Edit:
If someone is wondering where the feedback on the current event is in this post, the feedback is not only about making the Evos pretty but also strong, so strong that there is no question of whether to play an event or not.
In addition, some problems would solve themselves if Inno made reasonable Evos.
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FieryArien
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Not really, it doesn’t have to be better (or even OP). The idea isn’t from my head, but I like it’s simplicity: the most basic fix (apart from modifying the Library set itself) would be to introduce new, almost identical set in the Spire. The difference would be T2+x production (where x is 0, 1 or 2).
It would take time, but eventually people would naturally replace their Library sets with the newly won sets. I bet your 9 sets are quite unusual and most people have way less of them.
And even you could probably start replacing them partially in several phases.
SoggyShorts
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I know I wouldn't replace my 4 sets at all no matter what. Why? Because I still have 6 normal T2 factories, and if you give me another set that efficiently gives me more T2 and some other goodies I'll replace my factories, not my moonset.
Also, a huge issue with this idea is the complete isolation of players from trading.
E.G. If the moonset gives me scrolls, and my boosted factories give me crystals, and the new set gives me silk, how many T2 trades do you think I need? So only boost+0 works for the new building set which, again means that players replace factories, not libraries.
Pauly7
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But if you've replaced those 6 factories and then you get more new-style sets...
I'd say it has to be a smidge better than the library set anyway, to get people motivated.
Enevhar Aldarion
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Not sure how discussing the library set took over the event thread, but anyway, a replacement set should not give tier 2 goods at all, or the same problem will happen with a 2nd good. If should give a tier 1 good instead, and instead of a CC, perhaps 2-3 VV per day. And fewer spell fragments.
As for the event itself, I finished quest 57 earlier today and am now waiting for the next quest to unlock. And got this far again without any advance preparation.
As for the event itself, I finished quest 57 earlier today and am now waiting for the next quest to unlock. And got this far again without any advance preparation.
SoggyShorts
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I hadn't even noticed. Probably because the event offers
- uninteresting daily prizes
- uninteresting quests
- uninteresting grand prize
- uninteresting chest system
Arthus
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Ashen was around 7k pop before major change happened before hitting beta.
Sled was also weakened, multiplier for evolution level was lowered.
It seems that there is a person in team that nerfs the buildings before they hit beta so we won't see them how they were planned originally.
Sled was originally planned as the first evolving building that gives only culture and no population.
That's why there should be alpha version to test statistics with players or start beta tests sooner.
Evolving buildings are very underwhelming for many players i've talked with. They notice small population, and that they produce many things but not important ones or they are weak in every of them.
If someone has around 16k-20k (depending on level of ch15 wonder) population per 5x4 of town space in form of magic residence, and 3.3k per 4x4 of evolving building , then it's obvious what he/she will choose.
I just hope Ashen works same as owl and is boosted by ch14/15 wonders because 4k of T5 is laughtable. Atm i get 29k of T5 per 3h from 2 manufactories on spell boost (without storm phoenix).
Sled was also weakened, multiplier for evolution level was lowered.
It seems that there is a person in team that nerfs the buildings before they hit beta so we won't see them how they were planned originally.
Sled was originally planned as the first evolving building that gives only culture and no population.
That's why there should be alpha version to test statistics with players or start beta tests sooner.
Evolving buildings are very underwhelming for many players i've talked with. They notice small population, and that they produce many things but not important ones or they are weak in every of them.
If someone has around 16k-20k (depending on level of ch15 wonder) population per 5x4 of town space in form of magic residence, and 3.3k per 4x4 of evolving building , then it's obvious what he/she will choose.
I just hope Ashen works same as owl and is boosted by ch14/15 wonders because 4k of T5 is laughtable. Atm i get 29k of T5 per 3h from 2 manufactories on spell boost (without storm phoenix).
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CrazyWizard
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You know, unless there is a constant power creep, there are few prizes that could statisfy you, as soon as your established, have a ton of RRS to keep the current ones alive. it will be very hard to find interesting prizes, but for people that new, and grow these event are still fantastic, I remember having a lot of fun when a new world opened and all the event prizes where interesting , event after event after event.
Maybe to a certain extend RRS has killed part of the event fun. without RRS each time you hit a new chapter events become interesting again.
now without power creep and a stagnant city it's all the same.
little bee
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We were discussing the artifact craft for 10k fragments and whether it could lead to more libraries being placed. Technically this is part of the event.
But here is some feedback to the rest of the event:
- I love the loading screen.
- Quest are fine, but I really miss the event story. (And yes, I do actually read it.)
- The daily and grand prizes all look nice.
- The chest system isn't special, but works just fine. I would, however, prefer it if every chest got its own color again.