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Discussion Dawn of the Phoenix
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Jammin
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I don't really know what to think of the new Phoenix.
Players under chapter 14 need 6x animal feed to revive 5% of the lost troops during a tournament. Players with time warp and ice bear need 1x animal food. (Very well balanced) In addition, 5% feeding effect is far too little, but ok if you want to make an event bad you have to include more aspects
... I see.
Also no possibility for a second firebird base, mega bad.
Ludibria Ventis only once in the main prizes also super bad, sorry but without a second Firebird base in the Royal Pass, the second Ludibria Ventis is not worth the 1500 diamonds either.
Overall the weakest phoenix cult event and also poorly balanced.
Players under chapter 14 need 6x animal feed to revive 5% of the lost troops during a tournament. Players with time warp and ice bear need 1x animal food. (Very well balanced) In addition, 5% feeding effect is far too little, but ok if you want to make an event bad you have to include more aspects
... I see.
Also no possibility for a second firebird base, mega bad.
Ludibria Ventis only once in the main prizes also super bad, sorry but without a second Firebird base in the Royal Pass, the second Ludibria Ventis is not worth the 1500 diamonds either.
Overall the weakest phoenix cult event and also poorly balanced.
PrimroseSylvia
Well-Known Member
Agree; feeding bonus is really poor, ad @maxiqbert said, it will stay in my inventory. And it's a pity, graphic is really stunning!
Skillpowers
Well-Known Member
its thesame thing as the broken shards building that lasted 20 days. and no one forces you to use food on the building if you are under chapter 14? same with fire phoenix , you will need more food under chapter 14 , once you get over that + high timewarp you will need less. you need to think in the longrun....and no reason to have a second firebird base. should never have been an option to begin with + same as brown bear. it breaks the game.
CrazyWizard
Well-Known Member
I agree it could be a nice building but 5% is too little to be worth the pet food.
It's now a 0.0001% building as only for them it makes any sense.
It's now a 0.0001% building as only for them it makes any sense.
Dorfl the Clay
Well-Known Member
... and this effect will last 3,5 hour
Ainor
Well-Known Member
too little in any case
this percentage can be fine only if the duration is increased (12 or 24h)
Moncsociusz
Well-Known Member
I honestly don't understand why 5% is too little to people. I understand the duration would be better for a day like with the fire phoenix. But what % do you think would be reasonable? You already have the instants to revive even the whole squad. But for example your squad size is 30k (doesn't matter how many dies) you get back 7,5k or fully heals if less. (30k*5*5%) So if you are fighting well basically you can recover greatly. I think anything much higher would just break the whole game.
And can we appreciate that this is finally dynamic for everyone everytime. It doesn't matter what fights you are using, scouting ones, tourney, spire ( it heals between waves!), Doesnt matter the chapter, it's not event dependent (ashen), doesn't matter if you have a small city or you just started. It's 5%, no matter what. Except if you have more than 1. I think this is the most balanced one so far. We can all agree that fire and strom phoenixes are way too overpowered.
For me this is much better then the Ashen one, coldfire or aureate one. By miles.
Could save loads of people in spire, could balance the current punishing squadsize algorithm with the AW levels and expansions. Save army costs big time. I'm really thankful for it and I already love it. On beta with a small city, even if my army is destroyed. I can still recover much faster and fight for longer.
About the pet food, I would rather feed this as the a moon bear, the owl, coldfire, the panda. Luckily during the event you can win some pet food and it would be nice if it would be more available. But still, I think this is a great step and I'm honestly happy with it edited typos
And can we appreciate that this is finally dynamic for everyone everytime. It doesn't matter what fights you are using, scouting ones, tourney, spire ( it heals between waves!), Doesnt matter the chapter, it's not event dependent (ashen), doesn't matter if you have a small city or you just started. It's 5%, no matter what. Except if you have more than 1. I think this is the most balanced one so far. We can all agree that fire and strom phoenixes are way too overpowered.
For me this is much better then the Ashen one, coldfire or aureate one. By miles.
Could save loads of people in spire, could balance the current punishing squadsize algorithm with the AW levels and expansions. Save army costs big time. I'm really thankful for it and I already love it. On beta with a small city, even if my army is destroyed. I can still recover much faster and fight for longer.
About the pet food, I would rather feed this as the a moon bear, the owl, coldfire, the panda. Luckily during the event you can win some pet food and it would be nice if it would be more available. But still, I think this is a great step and I'm honestly happy with it edited typos
PrimroseSylvia
Well-Known Member
Ainor
Well-Known Member
is too little for 4x4 tiles occuped permanently and ton of food required (I can obtain much more troopes whit instant 5h +instant supplies)
Moncsociusz
Well-Known Member
With 5 hour instants, you could win all the fights you need in 3,5 hours
and save on supplies. But again, this is my take. I think it's great. More than 10% would be ridiculous IMHO. And much better than the 4% EC xD
Skillpowers
Well-Known Member
i would add that onto the building since its a different text then the the vitally surge but same mechanic.
Ainor
Well-Known Member
why?? supplies have a stock limit, better spend them training troopes than throw them away. Space is more precious
Skillpowers
Well-Known Member
i think the confusing was that the 5% says "fallen units" and no text about squad. now that it has been confirmed its the squad size people might see it different , specially the people who fight in spire/tourney and chapter 15+I honestly don't understand why 5% is too little to people. I understand the duration would be better for a day like with the fire phoenix. But what % do you think would be reasonable? You already have the instants to revive even the whole squad. But for example your squad size is 30k (doesn't matter how many dies) you get back 7,5k or fully heals if less. (30k*5*5%) So if you are fighting well basically you can recover greatly. I think anything much higher would just break the whole game.
And can we appreciate that this is finally dynamic for everyone everytime. It doesn't matter what fights you are using, scouting ones, tourney, spire ( it heals between waves!), Doesnt matter the chapter, it's not event dependent (ashen), doesn't matter if you have a small city or you just started. It's 5%, no matter what. Except if you have more than 1. I think this is the most balanced one so far. We can all agree that fire and strom phoenixes are way too overpowered.
For me this is much better then the Ashen one, coldfire or aureate one. By miles.
Could save loads of people in spire, could balance the current punishing squadsize algorithm with the AW levels and expansions. Save army costs big time. I'm really thankful for it and I already love it. On beta with a small city, even if my army is destroyed. I can still recover much faster and fight for longer.
About the pet food, I would rather feed this as the a moon bear, the owl, coldfire, the panda. Luckily during the event you can win some pet food and it would be nice if it would be more available. But still, I think this is a great step and I'm honestly happy with it edited typos