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Discussion Tournament Changes (post-release)

spennyit

Well-Known Member
I feel its very unlikely that their mind will be changed by anything said by the EN server after they pretty much ignored what has been said here on Beta.

In fact I used the word "behaviour" ;-) It is impossible, but just imagine that nobody goes over 1000 or 1600 points in the next 2 tournaments ... :) BTW, I completely agree with you :-(
 

Steelhail

Member
If mistwalkers are so prominent, we need to see the terrain _before_ we pick our troops, or the game erases strategy it used to have. With any other enemy unit, you could put out rangers to see the terrain first, withdraw, then use actual strategy in a lineup. That's pretty much gone, since who wants to lose tons of troops to mistwalkers simply to see a map? Or else change mistwalkers' initiative.
 

spennyit

Well-Known Member
Just a thought: I think that Optional SS updates are still against the tournament since your troops number in an encounter is based on your SS and, if it is bigger, you risk more troops and your losses will be higher. Am I wrong?
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Well-Known Member
you are wrong ;)
In the new setup your troops number is no based on your SS, thats what the whole rebalancing is about :)

Right, but our squad size in the new tournament in the 10th province is very close to our world map squad size, so someone used to the old system may see that and think there is still a connection.
 

spennyit

Well-Known Member
Right, but our squad size in the new tournament in the 10th province is very close to our world map squad size, so someone used to the old system may see that and think there is still a connection.
you are wrong ;)
In the new setup your troops number is no based on your SS, thats what the whole rebalancing is about :)
Have you numbers of your SS and your TSS in the different provinces? Expecially before and after doing the Optional SS updates. Thank you :)
 

Heymrdiedier

Well-Known Member
Right, but our squad size in the new tournament in the 10th province is very close to our world map squad size, so someone used to the old system may see that and think there is still a connection.
i think thats purely conincidental, you just have the expected amount of AW levels and placed expansions then... So maybe this is the ideal time for you to stop progressing now, so your cost goes down, and you can score higher in tournaments.... And this is exactly why this rebalancing is so wrong. That we are supposed to do less provinces, i get that and I'm ok with that, but that we should stop progressing, that's what makes this a game-breaker for me.

Another thing i'm not clear on now, with the randomness of enemies, does that mean it could feel like im doing a (pre-change) steel tournament this week, while my fellow feels like hes doing a (pre-change) steel tournament? or does it feel like the same difficulty for everyone? anyone know the answer to this?
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Well-Known Member
i think thats purely conincidental, you just have the expected amount of AW levels and placed expansions then... So maybe this is the ideal time for you to stop progressing now, so your cost goes down, and you can score higher in tournaments.... And this is exactly why this rebalancing is so wrong. That we are supposed to do less provinces, i get that and I'm ok with that, but that we should stop progressing, that's what makes this a game-breaker for me.

That is the way it has been for every week of the new format. My city is mid-chapter 5. I have advanced through a couple of chapters and I have upgraded one AW several times and I have placed several expansions and researched all Squad upgrades and this has been consistent the entire time for me. My squad size in the 10th province is just under my real squad size and in the 11th province it is just over.
 

spennyit

Well-Known Member
That is the way it has been for every week of the new format. My city is mid-chapter 5. I have advanced through a couple of chapters and I have upgraded one AW several times and I have placed several expansions and researched all Squad upgrades and this has been consistent the entire time for me. My squad size in the 10th province is just under my real squad size and in the 11th province it is just over.

This seems to show that INNO formula is not what they claim it is :-(
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Well-Known Member
Have you numbers of your SS and your TSS in the different provinces? Expecially before and after doing the Optional SS updates. Thank you :)

I was not keeping that detailed a list of numbers. I was only writing down my squad size for each province, so I could see the progression from week to week and I realized after the fourth week, that every time, no matter what I did during the week, my normal squad size was right in between the squad size for the 1st stars of the 10th and 11th provinces.
 

PaNonymeB

Well-Known Member
As base SS was previously used for province 20 and they merged 4 encounters into 1, having roughly base SS in tournament province 10 means you have half tournament costs with the TSS change.
 

spennyit

Well-Known Member
I was not keeping that detailed a list of numbers. I was only writing down my squad size for each province, so I could see the progression from week to week and I realized after the fourth week, that every time, no matter what I did during the week, my normal squad size was right in between the squad size for the 1st stars of the 10th and 11th provinces.
Can you show us the numbers you have? Also for past weeks, if you still have them. Thank you :)
 

Karvest

Well-Known Member
chapter 15, 40 provinces up to 5*

ProvinceMax roundT1T2T3MoneySuppliesOrcsMana
1654 30027 00015 600001 7003 300
2639 20038 10023 000330 00050 0004 6000
3681 30028 60015 6001 800 000197 0002 1000
4659 00061 80018 8002 170 000203 0002 9000
56110 00074 90019 4001 300 000150 00000
6674 00075 50035 0001 500 000120 0005 40023 000
7699 00074 00040 7002 000 000270 000033 000
86111 00092 00081 3000000
96167 000104 00054 0001 700 000000
105133 00074 00039 0000350 000037 000
11575 000189 00011 0000480 00000
125147 00081 00063 0002 300 000250 00000
135103 00091 00048 0000500 00012 10047 000
145195 000127 00036 0002 800 000250 00000
155214 00053 00053 0003 000 000570 0007 1000
165115 00058 000116 0002 700 000280 0008 30053 000
175161 000122 00077 0003 500 000610 00000
185128 000120 00066 0003 200 0001 020 0008 8000
195172 000107 00087 0003 700 000320 00017 5000
205134 000145 00048 0007 300 000370 0009 200137 000
215240 000143 00097 0000370 00010 0000
225244 000197 00049 0000800 000080 000
23552 000243 000130 0000400 00019 6000
245212 000119 000138 0008 900 000011 0000
255220 000168 000117 0004 200 000450 00012 0000
265289 000135 00089 00014 000 000011 0000
275309 00090 000149 0009 800 000450 00000
285185 000292 00090 0004 700 000530 00013 0000
295192 000249 000128 00010 500 000012 0000
305268 000147 000103 00011 000 000026 000100 000
315268 000261 000105 00011 300 000570 00000
325282 000213 000177 0000030 0000
335371 000278 00073 0000570 00015 000110 000
345225 000174 000224 0006 300 0001 190 00000
355377 000122 000195 0006 200 000031 0000
365478 000116 000202 0006 000 00000130 000
375404 000182 00084 00001 270 00033 000140 000
385166 000321 000208 0006 700 000018 000130 000
395171 000197 000213 00013 700 0001 420 0000130 000
405520 000197 000134 00014 200 00000150 000

Total:
7 844 8005 586 9003 652 400166 800 00014 010 000321 3001 303 300

enemy units:
lm:13,21%
lr:54,55%
ma:9,09%
hm:13,21%
hr:9,95%
mistwalkers15,02% (more than 1/4 of all lr units)
 

Sassenach

New Member
I love this new tournament. I have 4 cities on the live servers and they are a torment not a tournament. It takes forever to get one round completed when you get bigger since mostly I don't do autofight. Fighting in one city for one round takes all evening. So I always have to decide whether to do only a few provinces in each city or to do one complete round in one city. Also catering is not an option. Way to expensive. On Beta I can do all rounds and if the troops are too strong catering is an option. I must admit that I'm only in chap 3 though. Thanks for the new tournament. Can't wait to get it in live worlds.
 
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DeletedUser3314

Guest
... and then they can see the true horror of these tournaments ....
They are blind, even when it goes live they won't see it. :p They don't care that they are wrong and have made a big mistake, even when hundreds of players are complaining . :(
 

spennyit

Well-Known Member
I love this new tournament. I have 4 cities on the live servers and they are a torment not a tournament. It takes forever to get one round completed when you get bigger since mostly I don't do autofight. Fighting in one city for one round takes all evening. So I always have to decide whether to do only a few provinces in each city or to do one complete round in one city. Also catering is not an option. Way to expensive. On Beta I can do all rounds and if the troops are too strong catering is an option. I must admit that I'm only in chap 3 though. Thanks for the new tournament. Can't wait to get it in live worlds.

Are you doing the same number of provinces both in beta and in live worlds? Are the cities all the same level?

I suppose you will have some surprises ;-)
 
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