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Discussion New Spire of Eternity rewards!
- Thread starter Deadeye Jerry
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Prueba2
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I created the suggestion/request : [Spire] Revert Spire Diamonds probability reduction
Not really inspired but I tried my best
Not really inspired but I tried my best
Karvest
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Note that there is still boblinsexpressserviceartifact version scheduled for next week, despite of announcement. Not a bug yet, but will become it after spire start.
Lovec Krys
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copy paste power?
Enevhar Aldarion
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Several updates to this have happened without any notices here, but here is the latest one which starts Sunday Dec 24th:
- The Witch Doctor will be phased out as a possible reward for the Spire of Eternity.
- The Chromafrost Glacier Artifacts and a craftable building will be phased in instead.
- The Witty Raccoon Artifacts will also be phased in for crafting.
TimeMachine
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Very happy about having the beta news back on the original beta forum!
Words are not able to describe how touched I am by this! It is definetely more than much appreciated!
Thanks To @Deadeye Jerry and the Elvenar Team!
Words are not able to describe how touched I am by this! It is definetely more than much appreciated!
Thanks To @Deadeye Jerry and the Elvenar Team!
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Dhurrin
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ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED.
It has been several weeks now. And though I have been going at it for a while in order to gain orbs to upgrade the new AW I have decided is is no longer worth it.
Despite my SBS still being below 900 I find the fights to be harder than before. So much so that I cannot reach the top of the 2nd floor without horrendous losses, whereas I used to do that every week and be able to recoup. In fact, even when fighting on manual I still have higher losses than I did before the change when I was using autofight.
I also am facing absolute retarded combinations of different troops in the different waves; meaning that my troops will always face units that will absolutely obliterate them in one of the waves.
After the first euforia over Harold's Shop and the idea of a new AW that grants some help in the Spire, the fact that the Spire has become HARDER instead of easier despite a low SBS means I will be doing less of it as I cannot recoup the losses anymore.
It has been several weeks now. And though I have been going at it for a while in order to gain orbs to upgrade the new AW I have decided is is no longer worth it.
Despite my SBS still being below 900 I find the fights to be harder than before. So much so that I cannot reach the top of the 2nd floor without horrendous losses, whereas I used to do that every week and be able to recoup. In fact, even when fighting on manual I still have higher losses than I did before the change when I was using autofight.
I also am facing absolute retarded combinations of different troops in the different waves; meaning that my troops will always face units that will absolutely obliterate them in one of the waves.
After the first euforia over Harold's Shop and the idea of a new AW that grants some help in the Spire, the fact that the Spire has become HARDER instead of easier despite a low SBS means I will be doing less of it as I cannot recoup the losses anymore.
Karvest
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Bad enemy setups could be changed along with CAL changes. After recent adjustments AW levels and premium expansions are not a part of the formula anymore, so to change CAL you need to research some non-dead-end tech or place non-premium expansion. SBS doesn't affect enemy setups, just their amount.
Dhurrin
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I'm not saying the SBS alters the enemy troop set-up. I am saying that since the change the set-up for me definitely has changed for the worse. It used to be I could pick a combo of troops that would be at least relatively good for both waves. Now I see waves where the troops are so different that no matter what I pick there will be one wave that absolutely destroys my troops.
And again, as you don't seem to get it; a low SBS means fewer opposing troops, so the fight should be easier than it was before. A SBS under 900 means I should face under 90% of the troops I did before the change. And yet my losses are way higher, to a point where I cannot recoup as much as I lost where I could do that before the change.
In order to do about the same amount in the Spire as before I now have to do way less tourney, simply because the trooplosses in the Spire are so much higher than before. Or I can choose not to do as much of the Spire anymore. Wow, great way of getting someone interested...not.
This change really has me back to hating the Spire as it is grinding more troops so I can do less, meaning fewer rewards than before for more losses.
Karvest
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I mean enemy setup changes every time your CAL is changed. Sometimes it leads to bad setups, sometimes to easy ones.
Bad setup can give much bigger disadvantage than 10% less enemies boost you get from 900 SBS.
It doesn't linked to this update, just you was unlucky enough to get worse setups than it was before. But you can try to overcome that by researching some tech or placing normal expansion.
Bad setup can give much bigger disadvantage than 10% less enemies boost you get from 900 SBS.
It doesn't linked to this update, just you was unlucky enough to get worse setups than it was before. But you can try to overcome that by researching some tech or placing normal expansion.
Dhurrin
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My beta city does not have an excessive amount of expansions. It basically is a low-key, low intensity city that I keep active but do not play real hard. Though I have bought some premium expansions in the past it's nothing major. And I still have 2 unplaced research expansions I haven't really needed yet.
SBS is 877 this week.
Getting a bad set-up in opposing forces once in a while is something one can expect. However, that is happening WAY more often since the change. As in at least half the encounters on the 2nd floor, EVERY WEEK since the change.
Before the change I was able to do 2 floors every week, mostly on autofight, except the last 4 or 8 encounters of the 2nd floor, which I would usually do manually, but all without having to place military boosterbuildings and usually without needing the Firebird, although I would use the bird if it coincided with the tourney.
Now, even with the firebird AND fighting the entire 2nd floor manually I have way heavier losses every week than before. So it is not 'a bad set-up once in a while', it seems to be a structural thing for me.
Since it is a low-key city, there haven't been real changes or progression in tech advances either, so no real CAL changes that would explain this. The tech is slow, as I only check in once or twice a day and because of the Spire I now am doing less in the tourney, meaning fewer KPs for tech-research.
My troops have been literally decimated over the last few weeks due to the Spire. So, if this doesn't change, I just will forget about the damn Spire as it is not worth it.
Karvest
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If you had no progress during these weeks after update, you should be faced with the same bad setup (which you've probably got when CAL changed due to new formula, or maybe due to some other change a bit later, as it wasn't announced here on beta) over and over again until you break this vicious circle and do something that will change your CAL once more. If you would be lucky new setup will be easy, if not - not, but at least it would be different and not that bad as it is now.
Earlier it was enough to just add one AW level, but now it's not an option.
Earlier it was enough to just add one AW level, but now it's not an option.