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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Marindor, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. Heymrdiedier

    Heymrdiedier Well-Known Member

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    its not worth it if you want to do tournament. The only thing you need is orc production so you can keep clearing more provinces. For all the rest, its cheaper if you don't advance further. All the obligated squad size techs make your tournament harder.
    The only thing that might improve it again are new wonders you dont have yet in the previous chapters but its not worth all the extra SS upgrades.
    Only construct wonders i dont know yet, those might be a game changer for tournaments...
     
  2. Miciah

    Miciah Well-Known Member

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    the new wonders are not a game changer, they do/will help in time.. the time warp helps shorten duration between rounds but whats the point if you cannot replace troops fast enough in 16 hrs vs 12 hrs or less? the sapiens does add free units to the troops you have in que but isn't enough to make much difference at lower levels (mine is level 4 currently and time warp level 6)..,,,also with the kps required to get just 1 level done you will be in another chapter/s with more squad size upgrades before the sapiens is high enough to make any real difference.....whats happening is the squad size upgrades nerf the military aws ,one might be best just to sit in the chapter they are in and just level up aws for a year
     
  3. Dony

    Dony King of Bugs

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    military aws which produce units are based on SS, so its not nerf for them, their progress is linear to SS upgrade
    timewarp is really good wonder for ppl outside of europe, up until now the game was dictating them when to play if they wanted 6 rounds, with this wonder they can pley whenever they want
     
  4. Miciah

    Miciah Well-Known Member

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    yes the aws that produce units make a handful more but are killed off faster from bigger enemy squad sizes= no gain
     
  5. Dony

    Dony King of Bugs

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    its exactly the same, enemy army and aws are counted from same SS
     
  6. Miciah

    Miciah Well-Known Member

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    that doesn't make any difference ...what it is ,is the squad size itself when you are at 1700 per sqd vs enemy 2200 per sqd mixed so you cant get an advantage .......more troops wont help
     
  7. Heymrdiedier

    Heymrdiedier Well-Known Member

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    a quick calculation shows that if you get that wonder to max +40%, you basically are 2 chapters lower.
    however if you are in constructs compared to orcs your squadsize is 3.5 - 4 times as big. So staying in orc chapter is probably the best thing you can do for a tournament hardcode player. :)
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  8. Karvest

    Karvest Well-Known Member

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    these numbers are wrong, not sure where did you get them
     
  9. Heymrdiedier

    Heymrdiedier Well-Known Member

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    i just calculated them? how are they wrong?
    highest SS of constructs is 51. So if you did all of them you have 51*52/2 =1326
    each SS you have to do *3 to get the total units in a squad, so 1326*3=3978
    Add the 3 units you get as base from the very start (i might be wrong there i assumed it was 3, maybe its 6?) 3978+3=3981.

    for that optional ones i just skipped the ones that are optional, i took the elves tech tree. I know theres an extra optional one there that isnt optional for humans (also something that doesnt make sense to me) for elves that 3,5,9,13,15,16,17,20,22,26,28,30,32,39,42,47 and 48.

    Please enlighten me where my mistake is :)
     
  10. Karvest

    Karvest Well-Known Member

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    I'm elf, now in elementals, and have 1446 SS
    starting SS = 6
    25 is optional too
     
  11. Heymrdiedier

    Heymrdiedier Well-Known Member

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    i see i missed the optional 25 one. 1446 is correct then at start of elementals, ill update my table :)
     
  12. shadowblack

    shadowblack Well-Known Member

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    Base is 6 for both squad size and training size. Treant has a size of 6, so if the base was 3 you would be unable to use any of the free Treants you get.
     
  13. Heymrdiedier

    Heymrdiedier Well-Known Member

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    upload_2019-3-14_14-21-0.png with correct numbers now (i hope)
     
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  14. Jasper

    Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Now that I can see the new residence en masse in my fellow FS members cities I like the old graphics better. The new residence doesn't match the style of the Main Hall, it's to white. :(

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