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Discussion Chapter 18 - Team Spirit

Karvest

Karvest

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Any usecase of diamonds is there to get through the chapter/fa/tourney/etc a little faster.
+There are enough of ways to get such tiny amount of diamonds in game.
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Well-Known Member
@Marindor That is all I am making sure of. And since we have not had this chapter on Beta for 20 days quite yet, I am hopeful that by the 20-day mark, the devs may extend the time or make it permanent, so that the players who may spend diamonds a 2nd time when the merchants have to be renewed, will not be wasting them.
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Well-Known Member
Karvest said:
Any usecase of diamonds is there to get through the chapter/fa/tourney/etc a little faster.
+There is enough of ways to get such tiny amount of diamonds in game.
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A one-time spending is what is expected, same as upgrading the Builders Hut or the Magic Academy. There has been nothing in this game before chapter 18 that has required repeat spending of diamonds just to complete things a little faster or more efficiently. Six months to complete the chapter is 26 weeks, or 13 repeat purchases of those two merchants. So that is 300 diamonds for the two or 3900 diamonds over the chapter. Or more for all the players who cannot complete it even as quickly as six months.
 
Karvest

Karvest

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You can complete the chapter using only one merchant if you have a balanced and active endgame FS...
I'm not defending the merchants mechanic, I find it very annoying. But I'm fine with hiring costs in diamonds.
 

Dony

King of Bugs
buying 4th and 5th slot is your least problem and from a big picture its even irrelevant
almost all those trades on the market were made with time boosters or diamonds, where players will spend 100x more then buying 4th slot, there is a reason why trades are so small, so you need to use it many many times if you actually want to progress in this game, and by using time boosters/diamonds you only need 1 merchant, others will be waste of diamonds/coins

and what happens once you are done with this chapter? you wont buy any merchant, you wont use any timebooster/diamonds to post new trades and you will let all other players struggle the same way as you did in this chapter, just because ascended goods are useless outside of progressing in this chapter yet
 
Lovec Krys

Lovec Krys

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Dony said:
and what happens once you are done with this chapter? you wont buy any merchant, you wont use any timebooster/diamonds to post new trades and you will let all other players struggle the same way as you did in this chapter, just because ascended goods are useless outside of progressing in this chapter yet
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That's actualy a good thing considering the horrible merchant mechanics. Now try to imagine having those goods in Spire negotiations, that would make Spire even more unnegotiable than it already is.

@Karvest Depends what you call a balanced FS. Is my FS imbalanced just becaues i did everything i could to hit the end game as fast as possible to be able to test new chapters once they come to beta, so i'm the only one in ch 18? (there are 4 others in ch17, but no one has finished it yet (if they did, we would have all 9 bonuses)).
 
palmira

palmira

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Actually, maybe because I produce minerals that are in high demand right now, the merchants work just fine, I barely used mine in the last days and I got all the mercs I needed, the problem in the beginning was to be expected with only a few players on the market and everybody wanting to upgrade the portal. I upgraded mine later, built the race buildings first and had no problems with my 3 merchants. My bottleneck is the unurium/seeds production that even with all my seeds buildings out is just not enough. All in all, I am really liking the merchants, at least I am getting what I need at a fair exchange and I don't need to feed greedy producers of the less available merc as in previous chapters.
 

ekarat

Well-Known Member
Enevhar Aldarion said:
A one-time spending is what is expected, same as upgrading the Builders Hut or the Magic Academy. There has been nothing in this game before chapter 18 that has required repeat spending of diamonds just to complete things a little faster or more efficiently. Six months to complete the chapter is 26 weeks, or 13 repeat purchases of those two merchants. So that is 300 diamonds for the two or 3900 diamonds over the chapter. Or more for all the players who cannot complete it even as quickly as six months.
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I have similar feelings -- I have a strong preference for my diamond purchases to be permanent, and I expect many others feel the same way.
 

little bee

Well-Known Member
I don't see a problem with a diamond cost for a temporary erchant either. 300 diamonds every 20 days are quite easy to maintain, even for a F2P player. And once you reach chapter 18 there are not a lot of permanent things left to buy with diamonds.

The main problem is still that the merchants fails to even out trade imbalances, even though that is exactly what it was designed for. Before players with overabundant goods only had to offer discounts. Now they become limited in how much they can trade and in the time they wait, some of their goods decay. So now, they loose both time and goods, where they only lost goods before.
If it were possible to have merchant+trader at the same time, that problem would be solved.
 
Kersepitje

Kersepitje

QA Moderator
Elvenar Team
Indianaking said:
Chapter 18 has been around for a while - will the wiki be updated or do we have to wait until the chapter goes live? ;)
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You will have to wait :)

Our team also needs time to make the wiki page, gather the screenshots where necessary and to translate all the info to all different languages.
If you want the wiki as soon as it hits beta, then you will have to wait longer before the chapter arrives on beta. Because that would mean the wiki team would get an exclusive preview for a long time, while the playerbase has to wait and new bugs are not found by you guys... So we choose to work on wiki together with the release on beta to not waste time.

PS: please remember that our mods are only volunteers and this isn't their payed daytime job.
 
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qaccy

Member
It sucks when active discussions are seemingly ignored but relatively mundane questions get responded to immediately. Just an observation!
 
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