DeletedUser209
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I finally researched these big tree guys, but when I went to recruit them I could only train 1 ent per training slot. I couldn't increase it. How can I train more?
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DeletedUser31
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You should increase the training size by upgrading yor armory or building more of them. In your armory you can see how big it is now. http://prntscr.com/67nd7v
One Ent takes up 12 unit spaces. http://prntscr.com/67ncz9
One Ent takes up 12 unit spaces. http://prntscr.com/67ncz9
DeletedUser
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It is painfully slow HGC. With 1 size 8 armoury I can build 2 at a time.
And thanks Hoshi, I never knew what size meant.
And thanks Hoshi, I never knew what size meant.
DeletedUser58
Guest
Do beware of the Ents though, they're tricky for using in battle because they're slow (they can only move 2 hexes which is the smallest movement I've seen so far) and they have a very low initiative (this means they take a turn later on, sometimes even after enemy units; but it also means that they're not on the enemy's "priority" list so for example if you have Archers and Ents the enemy will first try to hit your archers, and will only go after the Ents if it can't reach the Archers or if they've already defeated your Archers).
They're useful for getting rid of other melee units but they're still tricky to use. You'll try them yourself but so far I'm still mostly using Sword Dancers + Archers and rarely include Ents in that mix (only when the enemy units and the terrain work for a tactic with Ents).
They're useful for getting rid of other melee units but they're still tricky to use. You'll try them yourself but so far I'm still mostly using Sword Dancers + Archers and rarely include Ents in that mix (only when the enemy units and the terrain work for a tactic with Ents).
DeletedUser
Guest
I've been using 1 unit of Ents, but most commonly when fighting similar enemies or when the terrain allows me to block access to my archers with the Ents. But yea, overall their slow speed makes them pretty useless.
DeletedUser503
Guest
Wow, I am disappointed to hear that Ents are so cumbersome to use. I have not
researched them yet, but I was looking forward to some real damage dealing
critters, as I am getting into some powerful foes in provinces. Thanks for the info,
it is much appreciated. I feel forewarned and will be wary now with using Ents.
researched them yet, but I was looking forward to some real damage dealing
critters, as I am getting into some powerful foes in provinces. Thanks for the info,
it is much appreciated. I feel forewarned and will be wary now with using Ents.
DeletedUser
Guest
Just look at them as tanks. They're slow, but can take hits that would normally whipe out your other units instantly.
DeletedUser118
Guest
If the battleground allows it you can use them as shields against meele fighters. For example if there's only a small path inbetween two walls where the enemy has to get through to fight you, you can position an Ent at that point to make it almost impossible for the bandits to get through there.
But beware, if the enemy has archers they might use it against your Ent and these units sure can harm you tree fellow.
But beware, if the enemy has archers they might use it against your Ent and these units sure can harm you tree fellow.
DeletedUser236
Guest
I just got my first Ents and since I have them I can actually win some fights with losing less than a stack (<60).. I just use them as blockers and they hit really hard (if you hit the right enemy though).. I've lost 3 Ents so far, so that's far better doable than losing 2/3 stacks at a battle.. I don't use them all the time though, it depends on the playing field (it's no use to try to chase the enemy around the field with only 2 steps at a time)..
TLDR; they are great blockers and hit hard
TLDR; they are great blockers and hit hard
DeletedUser58
Guest
If you're going versus melee units or you're on a battlefield with terrain that allows you to use the Ents to block others from reaching the rest of your units, they're fantastic. But if the enemy has archers and the terrain is plain, most of the time they'll do you more harm than good. Their main issue is their initiative, so any other unit you have will be attacked before the Ents are attacked.
I've been using one of the following 4 combinations this past week (the number means squid, the roman numerals mean upgraded unit):
- 1 Sword Dancers II, 4 Archers II
- 2 Sword Dancers II, 3 Archers II
- 1 Sword Dancers II, 1 Ent, 3 Archers II
- 2 Sword Dancers II, 1 Ent, 2 Archers II
My squad size is 72 at the moment, and with those combinations I've had very little trouble and loss.
I've been using one of the following 4 combinations this past week (the number means squid, the roman numerals mean upgraded unit):
- 1 Sword Dancers II, 4 Archers II
- 2 Sword Dancers II, 3 Archers II
- 1 Sword Dancers II, 1 Ent, 3 Archers II
- 2 Sword Dancers II, 1 Ent, 2 Archers II
My squad size is 72 at the moment, and with those combinations I've had very little trouble and loss.
DeletedUser
Guest
Versus melee units Ents are really good, that's true. I even use 5 Ent-squads (60 squad size) for every crystal encounter in the 5th ring (crystal=war dogs and orcs). If you can block a way you can fight the enemy one by one. Sometimes zero losses if lucky
DeletedUser58
Guest
That's when I think they're the most useful. Well, that and versus Cerberus/War Dogs, as the dogs come first and come 1 hex away from my Ents, which then kindly bash the dogs in the ground.
DeletedUser118
Guest
Most of the times my Dancers II have already taken care of the dogs before the Ents can even make a first move. ^^
DeletedUser
Guest
Thats true. But if you face a 3 stacks with 2x106 orcs and 106 wardogs 5x5 Ents do a better job than 5x60 dancers II which are slaughtered by r´the orcs with one hit
It's all a matter of squad size. And when you are outnumbered, the ents can take way more hits than Dancers II
DeletedUser
Guest
I've recently encountered a number of provinces with large number of ranged units (mortars and bandits) where Ents are totally useless and Sword Dancers die in 1 hit .. not a fun situation
DeletedUser118
Guest
Thats true. But if you face a 3 stacks with 2x106 orcs and 106 wardogs 5x5 Ents do a better job than 5x60 dancers II which are slaughtered by r´the orcs with one hit
It's all a matter of squad size. And when you are outnumbered, the ents can take way more hits than Dancers II
Units of Orcs and Dogs I usually fight with 3 Dancers and 2 Archers. While the Dancers take care of the Dogs, the Archers can already shoot at the Orcs, reducing the size so they won't hurt the Dancers that much after reaching them. My stack size is 72 btw.