Fixed [12171] Barracks doesnt work properly with Needles of the Tempest

[Dony]

Game version: v1.17.6-(006713d) (2016-10-27 13:05)
Game world: Beta1
Browser + version: Firefox 49.0.2
Flash Player version: 23.0.0.205
Operating System: Windows 10
Screen resolution: 1920x1080
Account name: Dony
Humans or Elves: Elves

Reproducibility: 5/5 (1/5 = happened once; 2/5 = happens randomly; 3/5 = happens sometimes; 4/5 = happens often, but not always; 5/5 = happens always)

Quest title: none (if applicable)

Current situation:
Barracks doesnt work with Needles of the Tempest properly if queue finish while being offline. When you log on, collect your army and start new queue, time is not corrected based on the level of Needles of the Tempest.
It doesnt work if you have no queue if you log on either. When you start training, it will last full time, not reduced by Needles of the Tempest.

Expected situation:
Barracks should always work with reduced training time when Needles of the Tempest is built.


Reproduction Steps 1.:
1. Start full/partial queue in Barracks
2. Lof off
3. Wait till the queue ends
4. Log on to the game
5. Collect your army
6. Start training new squad
7. It takes full lenght


Reproduction Steps 2.:
1. Have no queue in Barracks
2. Lof off
3. Log on to the game
4. Start training new squad
5. It takes full lenght

Work around:
start training small squad (1 sword dancer for example), place in queue 1 full squad of units you want, wait till first squad is trained, your next squad will have reduced training speed, fill rest of the queue.

 

[DeletedUser1771]

Hello Dony!
Can you help a bit with this problem, because we can't reproduce it? Can you supply us with screenshot and let us know what is the level of your Needles of the Tempest?

 

[Dony]

i have 2 different Needles with different levels, both doesnt work, will make screenshots when im home today

 

[Dony]

its actually other way around
reproduction steps are the correct way
work around is how to bug out and make training faster
if needles is at 30%, first squad is trained at barracks speed*needles speed (1,3 in this case)
second squad is trained at barracks speed*needles speed (1,6 it adds 30%+30%)

with big squads and high level of needless it makes hours shorter

 

[Dony]

I have Barracks on level 17 (training speed 49)
Needles of the Tempest on level 4 (increase of 30%)
total in Barracks is 49*1,3 = 63

sword acrobat base training speed is 12 minutes (720s)
squad of 197 sword acrobats takes 36m 07s (720/63= 11*197 = 2167s)

if you log to the game with no queue and place there 1 sword acrobat and then 197 sword acrobats following will happen
1 sword acrobat will train in 11s
197 sword acrobats right after will train in 29m 33s (time will jump directly to this number)
its because it will take double bonus from Needles of the Tempest
49 (base lvl17 barracks speed) * 1,6 (30%+30% double bonus from Needles) = 78
720/78= 9s per 1 sword acrobat
9*197 = 1773s = 29m 33s
6 minutes and 34s faster then intended

 

[DeletedUser1771]

Thank you Dony for detailed description and screenshots. In meanwhile I managed to reproduce it, too .

In my case:
- Barracks level 10 (training speed 19)
- Needles of the Tempest level 6 (37%)
- Sword acrobat training speed 37s (10 sword acrobats=6:10m to train)
- I was training 5 squads of 10 sword acrobats, first one was finished after 6:10m, while rest were finished in 4:50m.
- Timer which shows time til the end of complete training of all 5 squads first was showing 30:50m (which is 5 x 6:10m). After 1st squad was trained, second squad started with training and timer changed from 24:40 (24:40=30:50-6:10) to 23:20 (beacuse 2nd squad started training with reduced time of 4:50) so timer substracted 1:20m.
- With every other squad happened the same: they all were trained 4:50m except 1st squad which needed 6:10m to finish.
- Conclusion: for training 5 same squads time needed was: 6:10m + 4 x 4:50m = 25:30m. Difference is 5:20m. This make players to feel that training is going faster than it should, and that it speed up with every new squad, cause timer reduce time for 1:20m every time new squad starts to train.

I wont go in deeper calculations; maybe Needle of the Tempest doesnt have influence on training speed of 1st squad, and on others do; maybe your theory of double influence of Needle of the Tempest is right, maybe it is something else. We will leave this maths to devs, cause they know the magic training speed formula .

Final conclusion: all squads should be trained at the same speed, but that is not case right now.

Thank you Dony for your thread, time and patience .

 

[Marindor]

We are not able to reproduce this issue anymore. Should it reoccur, please let us know!

 

[Dony]

i can reproduce it easily, tho results are different, now it adds time instead of lowering, making training longer then intended = bad fix

1. place 1 sword acrobat to queue
2. place full squad of sword acrobats to second queue
3. wait till first acrobat finish training
4. full squad will increase time of training, watch time

 

[Dony]

posting screens

 

[Marindor]

Thank you, we will reopen it!

 

[DeletedUser1771]

There are no adding or subtracting time in Barracks anymore.

But if Barracks' clock speed up or slow down again, please let us know!