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Answered Two questions about buildings and production bonuses.

DeletedUser

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Two questions that I hope have not already been asked.

- Where can I find the description of culture provided by the human buildings? Polishing the human neighbors I'd like to know which give more bonuses.

- How much is the culture necessary for the various production bonus levels? Let me explain, I currently have 8310 citizens, how much culture I need to have 100% of production? how much for the 125%? for 150 I know I need 7600 points but I don't know how this is calculated. If the increase in population to 8500 how do I calculate how much culture I need to reach the various levels?

I'm sorry for my bad English, if something is not understandable tell me and I will try to explain me better.
 

DeletedUser

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It's difficult also for me to find something helpful about Pfil's 2nd question...:(
I'll continue to search about that :confused:
 

DeletedUser967

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It is not a x% of population? I must check it...
But for 100% ou don't need population, you can have -9000population and have 100% production:confused::confused:
 

DeletedUser778

Guest
I got a theory for number two!
On the Beta server I need 5300 culture for 125%.
My working population is 13875 and my required culture is 12629.
(13875+12629)/5 = 5300,8
On the german server
Working population: 573 and required culture 128
(573+128)/5 = 140,2
And I need 140culture there for 125%

So it's either a big coincidence, or the culture surplus needed for 125% is calculated: (working population + required culture) / 5
When two or three players can calculate it too and can confirm it we can be pretty sure that it is this way. :)
 

DeletedUser317

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Work pop 29222
Req cul 18071
cul need for 125% 9500

(29222+18071)/5=9458,6

you are pretty close :D.
 

DeletedUser778

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I think it's caused by rounding ;)
Muf-Muf said in the thread you mentioned above:
On top of these changes, you will now also always need the same amount of Culture between Bonus levels. Example: if you need 1000 available Culture to reach the first Bonus level, you will also need an extra 1000 available Culture to go from Bonus level 1 (125%) to Bonus level 2 (150%), and so forth.
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Thats not quite true, because of rounding I guess. I need 5300 for 125%, 11000 for 150% (5300 x 2 = 10600 rounded up to 11k) and 16000 (3 x 5300 = 15900 rounded up to 16k ) for 160%.
You notice when you progress that in the beginning when the needed cultur surplus is low the needed surplus goes up in in steps of 10 (currently on my low account), later in steps of 100 and later (finally?) in steps of 1000 (like on my beta account, atleast it was going up in 1k steps as I still was at 150/160%, the 5300 don't really fit, but maybe the first Bonus level is rounded one step below ).

So with your data so close I'm really sure that:
125% is: (working population + required culture) / 5, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.
150% is: (working population + required culture) / 5 x 2, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.
160% is: (working population + required culture) / 5 x 3, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.
170% is: (working population + required culture) / 5 x 4, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.

On my little account i need 140, 280, 420 surplus for 125%, 150%, 160%

I had no value that normally would be roudnded down, so it's also possible that it will always be rounded up. My little account is roundd down from 140,2 to 140, ah damn no, calculated with total population, was also rounded up from 138,6...
 
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DeletedUser

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LordB is always amazing with his calculations...I feel a little man :D
 

DeletedUser283

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currently :
working population = 9464
required culture = 10623
(WP+RC)/5 = 4017.4
required culture for 150% = 8000
that is pretty close indeed :)
I think the required culture value for 125% increments by steps, and not linearly ...
 
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DeletedUser

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Nice! I'll use this formula in my town with upgradings :eek:
 
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DeletedUser594

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Just reading makes my head smoke! All those numbers, no wonder devs getting it wrong
every so often! Getting ones buildings up to level 15 is my answer and not worry about what
% I got above 100! At the moment I run 125% and sometimes even 150%, but only if my 1 0r
2 friendly neighbors click the correct culture building! Got that much money these day, I can
go and buy missing stuff from the trader!! :)
 

DeletedUser

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In effect, if we think about all these numbers...they make us crazy! And I alredy am a little bit...:D
 

DeletedUser967

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Philplessis said:
I think the required culture step for 125% increments by steps, and not linearly ...
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It's true ;)

So good job LordB now I completly understand how to check require culture, previously I tried guess the value and I was close but not like now with your calculate :D :D
 

DeletedUser

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Philplessis said:
currently :
working population = 9464
required culture = 10623
(WP+RC)/5 = 4017.4
required culture for 150% = 8000
that is pretty close indeed :)
I think the required culture step for 125% increments by steps, and not linearly ...
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Philplessis, I've a question 'cause I'm not a mathematician (at the contrary, I'm hopeless): is there a reson for which you decided to divide by 5 in your formula? :confused:
 

DeletedUser283

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Alexander1972 said:
Philplessis, I've a question 'cause I'm not a mathematician (at the contrary, I'm hopeless): is there a reson for which you decided to divide by 5 in your formula? :confused:
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yes; there is a reason, and here it stands : ;)

LordB said:
I think it's caused by rounding ;)
So with your data so close I'm really sure that:
125% is: (working population + required culture) / 5, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.
150% is: (working population + required culture) / 5 x 2, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.
160% is: (working population + required culture) / 5 x 3, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.
170% is: (working population + required culture) / 5 x 4, rounded up or down to the next x0, x00, or x000, depending on which stage you are.
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DeletedUser

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Thank you very much, Philplessis: now I well understand the meaning of your formulas! ;)
 
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DeletedUser

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...I don't believe that Philplessis'd like an extra kiss from me too...:D
 
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