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Discussion Release Notes version 1.54

Heymrdiedier

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here on beta are only few fs doing 10 chests every tourney but, this is not big deal to do the 10 chests, the problem is find 25 ppl who want do that
well when (now?) the blueprints are finally usable by non-diamond players, id expect more people will be interested in doing tournament. So i expect more FS to be getting 10 chests.

But beta is a special case for many players. You cant really play that as a real server, since you dont get 'real' support. So maybe not that many find it worth doing tournament here...
 

amarie

New Member
I really don't like the idea of changing the values of existing values of buildings. For the buildings from the long events, a lot of folks spent actual money to buy more snowflakes/feathers/whatever in order to get those buildings. Devaluing the buildings and then asking us to spend diamonds to get the building back to something close to its original value seems really unfair. I think the buildings should keep their values for the chapters the existed at the time the building was released (i.e. if orcs was the highest chapter for winter 2017, the buildings that haven't been reused in a later event should keep the same values though orcs). In chapters that came after the release of the building, if the values of upgrading aren't as good, I think that's ok. The older buildings will eventually become obsolete and will get deleted, so making them upgradable can be done without totally throwing off the balance of the world and without needing to reduce the values of existing buildings.
 

Kaaru

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The probleme here is : why those folks keep those buildings more than one year? I really don't understand :eek:

Why such Orcs buildings should be better than Elementals buildings? What's the logic? To keep an advantage for veterants players? Does those cheap expensions aren't enough already? :confused:
 

ashrem

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The probleme here is : why those folks keep those buildings more than one year? I really don't understand :eek:
To help you understand, some of us don't rush through the tech tree. I have been in the same chapter since September, and am not finished. The chapter before that lasted from March until August
 

Kaaru

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It was best daily prize only 4 months ago.
Hmmm, you speak about the Father tree of candy cane which will be buffed for population? The one which was just the best because he was op/unbalanced and everyone knew it? Where is the problem? :confused:

Edit. : Well, what i want say : this balancing is welcome imo, just because (on chapter 12) :
- 2016 : Tower of the winter king (4x4) → 5900 :human: and 5900 :culture:
- 2017 : Ice Giant Hag (4x5) → 5900 :human: and 4000 :culture:
Imo again, this need to be balanced !
 
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Mykan

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The probleme here is : why those folks keep those buildings more than one year? I really don't understand :eek:
I have some since the first winter event as I either missed better options in other events or focused on different options. Those buildings are still better than what I can build normally so they stay. It does however also speak to the overpoweredness of them compared to other options nowadays.
 

Karvest

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Hmmm, you speak about the Father tree of candy cane which will be buffed for population?
Yes, and I don't see any buff for population now, only nerf that leaves me with negative population (yes, I'm in orcs now).
And combined (pop+culture) score of this building after update is way lower than other daily prizes from the same event.
 

Karvest

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Edit. : Well, what i want say : this balancing is welcome imo, just because (on chapter 12) :
- 2016 : Tower of the winter king (4x4) → 5900 :human: and 5900 :culture:
Imo again, this need to be balanced !
Just balance it on chapter 12... There were no way to get it in 2016.
 

edeba

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The old KP rewards made all 10 chests worthwhile without blueprints, and now, 30kp for that last chest!

well when (now?) the blueprints are finally usable by non-diamond players, id expect more people will be interested in doing tournament. So i expect more FS to be getting 10 chests.
I agree on the changing values after you put diamonds in to get the prize. People get upset when you switch their Mercedes for an Escort.

I really don't like the idea of changing the values of existing values of buildings. For the buildings from the long events, a lot of folks spent actual money to buy more snowflakes/feathers/whatever in order to get those buildings. Devaluing the buildings and then asking us to spend diamonds to get the building back to something close to its original value seems really unfair. I think the buildings should keep their values for the chapters the existed at the time the building was released (i.e. if orcs was the highest chapter for winter 2017, the buildings that haven't been reused in a later event should keep the same values though orcs). In chapters that came after the release of the building, if the values of upgrading aren't as good, I think that's ok. The older buildings will eventually become obsolete and will get deleted, so making them upgradable can be done without totally throwing off the balance of the world and without needing to reduce the values of existing buildings.
 

Kaaru

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@Mykan : I totally agree, that's why imo this need to be rebalanced :)

@Karvest : yeah but nowadays (before the nerf) these rewards are far better than most recent Events rewards. Some Spells (or Diamonds) and boom, players who kept them got op buildings. That's where the problem lies :confused:
 

Karvest

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@Kaaru : Again, just nerf levels that are not available to users without upgrade option, and no problems with both op buildings in endgame and devastated cities in midgame...
 

Kaaru

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@Kaaru : Again, just nerf levels that are not available to users without upgrade option, and no problems with both op buildings in endgame and devastated cities in midgame...
So you mean ancient version of these buildings before using of spells, and after they turn into new version? I'm ok with that, but... it seem to be difficult technically no? :confused:

And what about chapter 12 players with Father tree of candy cane then? o_O
 

SoggyShorts

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So you mean ancient version of these buildings before using of spells, and after they turn into new version? I'm ok with that, but... it seem to be difficult technically no? :confused:
Not at all. Absolutely zero players in the world have a chapter 12 Tower of the winter King today, so they can put any value that they want for the chapter 12 version.
And what about chapter 12 players with Father tree of candy cane then? o_O
What about them? I got mine in chapter 11 (chapter 12 didn't exist yet), so now I'm getting +300 pop for no reason without even spending a blueprint, and another 500 if I upgrade it. Totally unnecessary.
 
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Kaaru

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Not at all. Absolutely zero players in the world have a chapter 12 Tower of the winter King today, so they can put any value that they want for the chapter 12 version.
After the use of spell i mean. Exemple :
- Before Spell : Lvl 8 old Tower
- After Spell : Lvl 9 new Tower

What about them? I got mine in chapter 11 (chapter 12 didn't exist yet), so now I'm getting +300 pop for no reason without even spending a blueprint, and another 500 if I upgrade it. Totally unnecessary.
My bad, i meant chapter 11.