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Discussion Chapter 17 - The Traders of Unur

Dony

King of Bugs
Thx. to @Pauly7 for getting @Dony ´s paranoid fake news, about not being able to store buildings i Cap. 17, debunked fast.
can you explain to me what was a fake news? or you are just being rude? you can teleport whatever you want but in chapter 17 its for your disadvantage if you teleport buildings with high pop/cul demands and you want to place all your high pop/cul buildings from inventory to your city
 

CrazyWizard

Well-Known Member
can you explain to me what was a fake news? or you are just being rude? you can teleport whatever you want but in chapter 17 its for your disadvantage if you teleport buildings with high pop/cul demands and you want to place all your high pop/cul buildings from inventory to your city
you cant teleport any building anymore in ch17

RIP average players who struggled with seeds up until now, you are done with this chapter before they rebalance it
on top of that servers with market problems, which wasnt addressed yet, are screwed even more
 

FieryArien

Well-Known Member
And what about context?
As far as I am concerned guest race settlements have become a hateful experience to build and manage. The requirement for space tends to become greater and greater so many people teleport a lot of other buildings away to make space.
you cant teleport any building anymore in ch17
You can't teleport anything?
because you need every single pop and culture in order to progress in this chapter, else you cant even research second tech
The new chapter introduces (kind of) new mechanics and Dony got it pretty early. He gave extremely brief information, but when asked about it, he immediately explained what he meant. I call that “a conversation“.
 

galrond

Well-Known Member
can you explain to me what was a fake news? or you are just being rude? you can teleport whatever you want but in chapter 17 its for your disadvantage if you teleport buildings with high pop/cul demands and you want to place all your high pop/cul buildings from inventory to your city
Yes I found out by reading the next posts. But you wrote:
you cant teleport any building anymore in ch17

RIP average players who struggled with seeds up until now, you are done with this chapter before they rebalance it
on top of that servers with market problems, which wasnt addressed yet, are screwed even more
You can't teleport anything?
And then you explained whan you wanted to say.
If Pauly7 hadn´t asked to clarify, it would just have been: You can´t teleport buildings in ch17.
Then ppl would have to guess if it´s a bug or some stupid new feature from INNO.
Either way it had to be fixed.
If managing the city becomes more difficuld with the new demands, that is an entirely different thing.
In the future don´t write, that a game mechanic (constructing/ upgrading/ moving/ harvesting) don´t work, when it´s game balancing you don´t like.
That will in my book always be fake news, and derails the discussion :mad:
 

DeletedUser332

Guest
Yes I found out by reading the next posts. But you wrote:


And then you explained whan you wanted to say.
If Pauly7 hadn´t asked to clarify, it would just have been: You can´t teleport buildings in ch17.
Then ppl would have to guess if it´s a bug or some stupid new feature from INNO.
Either way it had to be fixed.
If managing the city becomes more difficuld with the new demands, that is an entirely different thing.
In the future don´t write, that a game mechanic (constructing/ upgrading/ moving/ harvesting) don´t work, when it´s game balancing you don´t like.
That will in my book always be fake news, and derails the discussion :mad:
While the clarification was important, the original message is still accurate in a lot of ways. You may still be able to teleport any building that isn't evolving, expiring, an AW, or has a limit on how many can be built, in terms of gameplay you're now also encouraged to not remove buildings that require population and culture because that will directly impact your settlement productions. Taking these new 'soft' restrictions into account, you can essentially only teleport culture and set buildings as they're the only ones that won't have a direct impact on your settlement productions.
 

CrazyWizard

Well-Known Member
While the clarification was important, the original message is still accurate in a lot of ways. You may still be able to teleport any building that isn't evolving, expiring, an AW, or has a limit on how many can be built, in terms of gameplay you're now also encouraged to not remove buildings that require population and culture because that will directly impact your settlement productions. Taking these new 'soft' restrictions into account, you can essentially only teleport culture and set buildings as they're the only ones that won't have a direct impact on your settlement productions.
Only if you are in a minimalistic state, I think the choose option is more a intensification of a seed issue, then it would impact that new recource.
I checked the numbers in my live city and I would get near double the new thing than seeds. and my seed production is already huge.

I think this new recource for now is more of a wash.
 

maxiqbert

Well-Known Member
Only if you are in a minimalistic state, I think the choose option is more a intensification of a seed issue, then it would impact that new recource.
I checked the numbers in my live city and I would get near double the new thing than seeds. and my seed production is already huge.

I think this new recource for now is more of a wash.
it's not rare, if you're making 100% unurium
but you also need seeds, so the balance isn't that obvious.
I had to wait for unurium to build the trade center, for instance. Not long, but still.
 

Dl. Goe

Member
Hi guys,

I’m not sure if I got this right, but at the first glance it looks for me that one could try to complete the chapter with the portal and flagships alone, skipping all small/large ships. Am I missing anything?
 
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MinMax Gamer

Well-Known Member
I’m not sure if I got this right, but at the first glance it looks for me that one could try to complete the chapter with the portal and flagships alone, skipping all small/large ships. Am I missing anything?
Nothing, if you want to spend about a year to complete this chapter.
 

jaris

New Member
Ahoj. Muže někdo zveřejnit jak nejlépe poskládat lodě k portálu. ty plánky před tím jsou špatně čitelné i po zvětšení.Děkuji
 

Scoobydoo

Forum Moderator
Elvenar Team
Please remember English only in the Beta forum

Original post =
Ahoj. Muže někdo zveřejnit jak nejlépe poskládat lodě k portálu. ty plánky před tím jsou špatně čitelné i po zvětšení.Děkuji

Translation =

Hello. Can anyone post how best to stack ships to the portal. the plans before that are illegible even after enlargement. Thank you
 

Lovec Krys

Well-Known Member
It all depends how much free space player has (or can make without lowering unurium production too much).
The layout will differ for someone with space barely to fit Portal + Flag ships and for someone who can fit a lot of additional Large and Small ships there.
 

DeletedUser2561

Guest
Small ships are unlimited, so they should be teleportable. But portal, big and middle ships are limited. so probable unportable.

EDIT: If you are active and can produce in 3h cycles or faster, small ships should be on par or even better than the middle ones.
 

LOKINHO

Well-Known Member
This is an option
https://prnt.sc/v1mtlx

Could someone tell me what a portal fungible gives in chapter 17? what exactly does it produce? unurium (yellow circle) or does it produce substance x (I don't know its name but it comes out with a purple sphere) or does it produce the other 3 artifacts, pearl, shrimp or keys? or does it produce everything?
 

alainemk

Well-Known Member
This is an option
https://prnt.sc/v1mtlx

Could someone tell me what a portal fungible gives in chapter 17? what exactly does it produce? unurium (yellow circle) or does it produce substance x (I don't know its name but it comes out with a purple sphere) or does it produce the other 3 artifacts, pearl, shrimp or keys? or does it produce everything?
Yikes! not going to be able to get anywhere near that set up in my live city (without purchasing expansions, which I will not do)
 

MinMax Gamer

Well-Known Member
Could someone tell me what a portal fungible gives in chapter 17? what exactly does it produce? unurium (yellow circle) or does it produce substance x (I don't know its name but it comes out with a purple sphere) or does it produce the other 3 artifacts, pearl, shrimp or keys? or does it produce everything?
Portal Profits only produce capped resources, so that would be ElvenarinZero in C17.
 

Lovec Krys

Well-Known Member
And that means that at least in my case my Portal produces nothing (And will do for the whole chapter). All Elvenarin0 will be produced by PPs in my case (to save more precious resources).