Great, so I just need that somebody at end of chapter 16 with TRAINING SS of 5316 tells me which is his starting TSS at province 1 star 1 ;-) Of course we will have different AWs level/Expansions and, possibly, researchs (I did all), but it would be a great starting point to simulate what to expect
How can I get the starting TSS? Of course it is different with the old tournament mode or am I missing something?
You can look at the formula found by @MinMax Gamer (https://beta.forum.elvenar.com/inde...-size-calc-we-need-your-data.15202/post-89944), or look at the starting Spire SS and divide it by 5.
I’m just exhausted. Not entertained.
I'm assuming the red text isn't your own words but someone you are quoting. Because I assume you are smart enough to know that researching squadsizes doesn't impact the difficulty at all.
Actually, in the first weeks of release they wanted to make tournaments all the same, and this has been changed after community feedback.
I think there is a difference between "all the same" and "balanced"
I agree that they should not be all the same (i.e. the same random enemies), but I don't like the fact that in half the tournaments you spend twice the troops that you spend in the other half to get the same result :-( I think that in each tournament you should have 2/3 types of troops related to the tournament (as today) so you can have preparation strategy, but the troops cost should be quite similar in all tournaments to get the same result (this is not the case today, but since they want to change at least one positive thing should be met ;-)) i.e. in Steel and Scrolls tournaments (as example), although the enemies combinations will be different, the troops casualities to get to province 10, 20, 30, ... should be very similar (+- 10-15%), not as today when in Steel you lose less than half the troops than in Scrolls :-(Indeed. But I think this problem comes from an imbalance between units more than from tournaments themselves.I think there is a difference between "all the same" and "balanced"
Maybe somebody likes it :-(
That's for sure, but it will be "easy" for them (who know everything of their game ;-)) to create well balanced encounters although with different troop combinations and different terrains. With the new tournament you have just one encounter per province and "just" 15 types of troops mix/terrains: it should not be so difficult to balance among themselves. Are you telling me that I am overestimating INNO development team?
BTW, we are here to give them suggestions, it is up to them to demonstrate, if they want, that they listen to us (till now the answer is quite clear: they claim that they listen (1 encounter instead of 4), but they do what they want (everything else)).right... so why did the outcome change?
| Province | Max round | T1 | T2 | T3 | Money | Supplies | Orcs | Mana |
| 1 | 6 | 45 600 | 20 800 | 18 800 | 0 | 67 000 | 2 500 | 0 |
| 2 | 6 | 24 700 | 47 800 | 12 500 | 1 200 000 | 150 000 | 2 500 | 17 000 |
| 3 | 6 | 63 400 | 59 200 | 25 100 | 1 300 000 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 4 | 6 | 60 800 | 28 600 | 28 200 | 2 170 000 | 100 000 | 3 300 | 53 000 |
| 5 | 6 | 57 000 | 66 600 | 44 000 | 3 200 000 | 0 | 0 | 17 000 |
| 6 | 6 | 102 000 | 47 000 | 40 400 | 1 500 000 | 350 000 | 2 900 | 0 |
| 7 | 6 | 95 000 | 94 000 | 51 700 | 1 300 000 | 170 000 | 0 | 0 |
| 8 | 6 | 178 000 | 66 000 | 45 800 | 0 | 150 000 | 4 600 | 0 |
| 9 | 6 | 69 000 | 58 000 | 56 400 | 4 500 000 | 370 000 | 0 | 120 000 |
| 10 | 5 | 73 000 | 19 000 | 49 000 | 4 000 000 | 420 000 | 0 | 128 000 |
| 11 | 5 | 125 000 | 106 000 | 42 000 | 2 500 000 | 0 | 6 300 | 0 |
| 12 | 5 | 25 000 | 112 000 | 72 000 | 2 500 000 | 500 000 | 6 700 | 0 |
| 13 | 5 | 185 000 | 123 000 | 45 000 | 2 800 000 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 14 | 5 | 138 000 | 102 000 | 82 000 | 0 | 280 000 | 0 | 54 000 |
| 15 | 5 | 173 000 | 55 000 | 108 000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 121 000 |
| 16 | 5 | 152 000 | 146 000 | 72 000 | 0 | 330 000 | 0 | 64 000 |
| 17 | 5 | 160 000 | 148 000 | 44 000 | 5 800 000 | 350 000 | 0 | 60 000 |
| 18 | 5 | 254 000 | 129 000 | 40 000 | 0 | 300 000 | 17 600 | 0 |
| 19 | 5 | 176 000 | 30 000 | 111 000 | 0 | 690 000 | 18 800 | 67 000 |
| 20 | 5 | 182 000 | 105 000 | 93 000 | 3 300 000 | 400 000 | 0 | 147 000 |
| 21 | 5 | 284 000 | 142 000 | 74 000 | 4 200 000 | 0 | 0 | 80 000 |
| 22 | 5 | 206 000 | 188 000 | 73 000 | 4 000 000 | 0 | 9 600 | 87 000 |
| 23 | 5 | 154 000 | 198 000 | 82 000 | 7 900 000 | 450 000 | 10 000 | 0 |
| 24 | 5 | 267 000 | 217 000 | 131 000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 25 | 5 | 282 000 | 166 000 | 144 000 | 0 | 0 | 11 000 | 0 |
| 26 | 5 | 176 000 | 180 000 | 201 000 | 4 900 000 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 27 | 5 | 359 000 | 91 000 | 119 000 | 10 200 000 | 0 | 0 | 100 000 |
| 28 | 5 | 260 000 | 92 000 | 91 000 | 5 000 000 | 470 000 | 26 000 | 200 000 |
| 29 | 5 | 134 000 | 201 000 | 128 000 | 4 900 000 | 500 000 | 13 000 | 210 000 |
| 30 | 5 | 272 000 | 256 000 | 98 000 | 0 | 1 070 000 | 13 000 | 0 |
| 31 | 5 | 203 000 | 161 000 | 139 000 | 5 900 000 | 590 000 | 27 000 | 100 000 |
| 32 | 5 | 420 000 | 166 000 | 142 000 | 0 | 600 000 | 14 000 | 0 |
| 33 | 5 | 223 000 | 222 000 | 111 000 | 11 700 000 | 0 | 29 000 | 120 000 |
| 34 | 5 | 299 000 | 294 000 | 186 000 | 0 | 0 | 15 000 | 0 |
| 35 | 5 | 307 000 | 293 000 | 196 000 | 0 | 640 000 | 0 | 0 |
| 36 | 5 | 316 000 | 184 000 | 199 000 | 6 000 000 | 1 320 000 | 0 | 0 |
| 37 | 5 | 163 000 | 370 000 | 166 000 | 0 | 1 290 000 | 0 | 130 000 |
| 38 | 5 | 334 000 | 132 000 | 210 000 | 6 400 000 | 640 000 | 17 000 | 140 000 |
| 39 | 5 | 346 000 | 322 000 | 133 000 | 6 900 000 | 1 340 000 | 0 | 0 |
| 40 | 5 | 446 000 | 269 000 | 127 000 | 7 200 000 | 1 410 000 | 0 | 0 |
| Total | 7 789 500 | 5 707 000 | 3 830 900 | 121 270 000 | 14 947 000 | 249 800 | 2 015 000 |
| lm: | 11,39% |
| lr: | 8,13% |
| ma: | 35,98% |
| hm: | 9,28% |
| hr: | 35,22% |