Lovec Krys
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@Loki Blue It seems that it's the same in all servers. Like we beta players didn't tell that coming.
@Loki Blue It seems that it's the same in all servers. Like we beta players didn't tell that coming.
Checked that on live servers with several players, that should be at the same progress point except of the wonders.Hi guys,
The Spire difficulty is based on a lot of factors, Ancient Wonder levels being by far the smallest of them. Their influence is very little, but yes, as you progress in the game, the Spire difficulty increases with that and AW levels are just one of the many parameters (as said: the smallest in fact) by which account progression is measured
Then stop being vague please and release the formula instead. This solves both the misunderstanding and at the same time we can actually properly discuss the new formula so it can be improved if needed@Syonis It's simply not possible that increase comes from AW alone
@Arthus vel koval Infinity spiers entered our servers yesterday.My whole fellowship said that this spire is a total fail. Half of polish servers resigned before 2nd floor.
Waste of army before important tournaments. @Marindor idk what creators think in IG central, but please let them know that whoever created this fail should be fired.
@Arthus vel koval Infinity spiers entered our servers yesterday.
We are just testing them and you already have statistics saying that half of PL servers resign from entering the second floor of the spire?
Please speak in your threads only on your behalf. You are not our representative here on beta.
The spire, of course, has its drawbacks, but this is no reason to dump your frustrations here.
It was known all the time to pass the spire one had to be properly prepared for it. It can't be done from a march
.If anyone thought otherwise, he was is wrong.
I do not deny that the spire is to be worked out and it is happening all the time. There are players who like it.Whole forums speaks same as me so get out of my comment.
The spire is fail and should cease to exist.
This is not true (I read polish forum on regular basis, including your posts there). Your comment here is simply untrue. Btw.:, I can not recall allowing anyone to speak in my name, so please stop using terms like "polish players" or "polish forum" Everyone has the right to post his/her opinion here, but please speak for yourself. Thank you in advanceWhole forums speaks same as me so get out of my comment.
This is not true (I read polish forum on regular basis, including your posts there). Your comment here is simply untrue. Btw.:, I can not recall allowing anyone to speak in my name, so please stop using terms like "polish players" or "polish forum" Everyone has the right to post his/her opinion here, but please speak for yourself. Thank you in advance
Since I left my comfort zone anyway, I can provide my personal opinion on the Spire as well. I consider the Spire a challenge, but nothing that could not be mastered. Perhaps I will not be able to master it this or the next week, but one day... who knows For the time being I consider the Spire to be a cheap source of spell fragments for the first few fights on the first level.
I just did.Speak for yourself
That is exactly the point. I have no right to. All I am asking you for is to try to avoid speaking in the name of anyone else but yourself, "polish players" in particular. You are not my representative. Thank you.and your amazing fellowship
there a tons of games available that share these formulars. What do you have to hide?@CrazyWizard as far as revealing our formulas, you know of course that we don't do this.
Alright guys, back on the subject please instead of personal attacks, thank you
@CrazyWizard as far as revealing our formulas, you know of course that we don't do this. We collect the feedback from player experiences, compare it to our data and analytics and monitor if things are going as planned. What I can say about it in general is this:
Unless a wonder is totally useless for your playstyle (e.g. Shrine of Shrewdy Shrooms if you never fight), every Ancient Wonder will give you more benefits than you would need to make up for the minimal increase in costs for building/upgrading one of these Ancient Wonders.
A highly advanced player will have an easier time in the Spire than a Chapter 3 player. By moving the full difficulty progression away from squad size upgrades (Research) and provinces (expansions/city size) to our new formula, we discourage players from unintended and borderline exploitative play styles, such as staying on Chapter 4 and ONLY improving Ancient Wonders and Relic Boost. This is especially unfair for those players who grow their cities normally and subsequently have a disadvantage in Tournaments against players who do use these strategies, which is why the Spire difficulty calculation is not solely Chapter based, but takes many more things into consideration. Every single variable in this formula, such as the Ancient Wonders, will give you more benefits than it increases costs. This is especially true when comparing with the Tournaments, where Research and Provinces would give you less benefit than costs, while Wonders and Relics would just give you benefits without any cost increase.
Our goal is that every player can participate in the Spire, while players on higher Chapters have a slight advantage, but lower Chapter players still have very good chances at making progress in the Spire if they use their available resources wisely. Of course we will also conduct our usual Analyses and watch the data closely, to see if this goal is achieved. If it isn't, we will make the necessary adjustments.