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Not a Bug Wholesaler sentient cost/offer error

Prueba2

Well-Known Member
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Game version: v1.158-beta.2-(7b41576) - html5 (2022-07-29 12:53)
Game world: ZZ1
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Operating System or Mobile Device: Windows
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Humans or Elves: Human & Elves

Reproducibility: 5/5

Quest title: (not applicable)

Current situation:
__ In high levels of Main Hall, Wholesaler does requests different cost and offer different quantities for different sentients products, menawhile in the previous levels the cost and the offered quantities were equal (clearer in snapshots)
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Expected situation:
__ Wholesaler to have same costs and offer same quantities for all sentients
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Reproduction Steps
1. Open Wholesaler, sentient offers tab
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Add more steps if needed. Include only ONE action for each step!

Screenshots of the bug:
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Main Hall 38 (capacity 65M => T1 65k => (25%) S1 16.5k / S2 16.5k / S3 16.5k)
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Main Hall 39 (capacity 80M => T1 80k => (25%) S1 20k / S2 20k / S3 20k)
(snapshot showing sentient tab, cost S1 20k / S2 __k / S3 __k)​

Main Hall 40 (capacity 100M => T1 100k => (25%) S1 25k / S2 25k / S3 25k)
(snapshot showing sentient tab, cost S1 25k / S2 __k / S3 __k)​

Main Hall 41 (capacity 120M => T1 120k => (25%) S1 30k / S2 30k / S3 30k)
(snapshot showing sentient tab, cost S1 30k / S2 24k / S3 21k)​

Main Hall 42 (capacity 140M => T1 140k => (25%) S1 35k / S2 35k / S3 35k)
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Main Hall 43 (capacity 160M => T1 160k => (25%) S1 40k / S2 40k / S3 40k)
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Bor de Wolf 1965

Well-Known Member
What is the level of your blooming trader guild?
That wonder is responsible for how many T1-T3 goods you get for some coins.
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these numbers I have with my BTG at level 27
And I trade T4 on my trader 40k-> 37k
And I believe if I get my BTG up to level 30 I would trade T4-T6 as 1:1 for other T4-T6 goods
 

Prueba2

Well-Known Member
What is the level of your blooming trader guild?
That wonder is responsible for how many T1-T3 goods you get for some coins.
View attachment 10200
these numbers I have with my BTG at level 27
And I trade T4 on my trader 40k-> 37k
And I believe if I get my BTG up to level 30 I would trade T4-T6 as 1:1 for other T4-T6 goods
Main Hall 43?
Please provide snapshot of sensitive products, thanks
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Well-Known Member
Level 37 main hall and I can confirm that the tier 2 and tier 3 goods for goods trades are not following the pattern that the coins and supplies for goods have. But the level 37 has the correct amounts for all of the sentient goods.

Tier 1 is correct at 5.4m, 540k and 54k. Tier 2 and 3 are correct for coins and supplies at 5.4m and 540k, but tier 2 boosted good for non-boosted is showing 36k, instead of 54k, while tier 3 is showing 24k, instead of 54k. Sentient goods are showing same amount for all the boosted for non-boosted at 13,500.

Also, this different number for tier 2 and 3 goods for goods wholesale trades seems to be in all levels of the main hall, as in my other Beta city with a level 17 main hall, the wholesaler is showing correct for tier 1, but tier 2 and 3 amounts are lower, as in the high chapter cities.
 

Karvest

Well-Known Member
T1-T3 always show the same amounts that you can buy for coins => they are different, even if we'd like to have bigger volumes in boosted for non-boosted offers - that makes sense.
Having some MH levels with equal T4-T6 amounts and other with different - doesn't.
 

Prueba2

Well-Known Member
WholeSaler costs and offers are related to Gold Capacity (and thus to Main Hall level).

Main Hall level => Gold Capacity
Tool Capacity = 10% * Gold Capacity
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T1
Gold Costs = 10% * Gold Capacity
Tool Costs = 10% * Tool Capacity
T1 Costs = 1/1000 * Gold Capacity
T1 Offered = 1/5 * T1 Costs (modified by BMG)
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T2
Gold Costs = 10% * Gold Capacity
Tool Costs = 10% * Tool Capacity
T2 Costs = 1/1000 * 1/1.5 * Gold Capacity
T2 Offered = 1/5 * T2 Costs (modified by BMG)
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T3
Gold Costs = 10% * Gold Capacity
Tool Costs = 10% * Tool Capacity
T3 Costs = 1/1000 * 1/2.25 * Gold Capacity
T3 Offered = 1/5 * T3 Costs (modified by BMG)
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S1
S1 Costs = 1/4 * 1/1000 * Gold Capacity
S1 Offered = 1/5 * S1 Costs (modified by BMG)

S2
Up to Main Çhall level 36-37
S2 Costs = 1/4 * 1/1000 * Gold Capacity​
S2 Offered = 1/5 * S2 Costs (modified by BMG)​
From Main Hall level 41 and up
S2 Costs = 1/4 * 1/1000 * 1/??? * Gold Capacity​
S2 Offered = 1/5 * S2 Costs (modified by BMG)​

S3
Up to Main Çhall level 36-37
S3 Costs = 1/4 * 1/1000 * Gold Capacity​
S3 Offered = 1/5 * S3 Costs (modified by BMG)​
From Main Hall level 41 and up
S3 Costs = 1/4 * 1/1000 * 1/(???)^2 * Gold Capacity​
S3 Offered = 1/5 * S3 Costs (modified by BMG)​
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After each accepted offer, cost for that specific offer increases by +50% of base cost for the remainder of the day.
 
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Marindor

Well-Known Member
Hi guys,

Thank you for waiting. We double checked this issue and the numbers are correct. Until Main Hall level 39, all Sentient Good offers have the same numbers, which means you get more value out of Refined and Precious Sentient Goods. This is not good, because it can have an unintended effect on the market (on normal trades). In other words: The Refined and Precious Sentient Good offers of the wholesaler are too strong. To fix this, instead of lowering these too strong offers (making the wholesaler weaker), we decided to fix this flaw "over time" from Main Hall Level 39 (chapter 17) on by increasing Refined and Precious Sentient Goods offers slower than Basic Sentient Goods until the value of these offers is even - which is done by level 45 (chapter 20): From Main Hall Level 45 on, the Sentient Good offers will have the same value, and the ratios shown there will not change anymore with higher levels. Hope this helps to clarify it!
 

Prueba2

Well-Known Member
Thanks @Marindor for the explanation.
Just to confirm it, so for Main Hall 45, ratios of S1 S2 and S3 costs will be 2.25 : 1.5 :1 ( in a similar way to T1:T2:T3)?
 
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